The climate movement's key focus is on the reduction of emissions and stopping humanity from going over the edge into full blown climate breakdown. But by focusing so heavily on the parts per million of CO2 in the atmosphere, are we missing ways in which the natural world shapes our existence? Are we being negligent of the lives of other species that make up life on Earth, and what effect does that have on humanity in turn?

Returning to the show is Professor Chris Armstrong to discuss his new book "Global Justice and the Biodiversity Crisis: Conservation in a World of Inequality". Chris is a Professor in Political Theory in the Department of Politics and International Relations at the University of Southampton @sotonpolitics.

We start by discussing the current state of international nature conservation and how colonial powers still shape biodiversity schemes, how by fixating on carbon we miss the richness that nature provides for humans and how some efforts for conservation embed the structural inequality enforced on the Global South. We also discuss how by viewing the world through economics, we make it worse for all living things on the planet.

You can read Chris's latest book here:Global Justice and the Biodiversity Crisis: Conservation in a World of Inequality https://academic.oup.com/book/55992?

‍Ads recommends some books by James Rebanks when we discuss farming. You can find his catalogue here: https://www.penguin.co.uk/authors/120316/james-rebanks

Survival International https://www.survivalinternational.org/campaigns/conservation